🄰🄻🄿🄷🄰 🅀🅄🄰🄳🅁🄰 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐋𝐈𝐈 (𝐈𝐍𝐓𝐏) 𝐏𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐓𝐲𝐩𝐞

"A person with a developed logic and a strong capacity for analysis. They are able to logically arrive at the essence of phenomena and uncover its inner structure. This is the type of a revolutionary or political conspirator. In conflict situations, they organize committees to crush the opposition. The LII believes that everything in the world must be logical and therefore just."

- Aushra


Opening Statements: Written by ImpossibleHunt 

LIIs are an interesting type, but I think many people get mistyped as them if they are simply introverted, and can come up with persuasive arguments from time-to-time. There is a lot more to the INTP type than simply that. These types seek to condense all of the reality around them into a single system, or overlying framework. This is to make sense of the world, and to create consistency and safety. This usually turns into a sort of ideology that is constantly being reinforced, updated, and defined. Which is why LIIs almost always are SO6 in Enneagram. 

As such, these types can actually be a lot more rigid than lots of people give them recognition of being. If a conclusion lies outside their system or framework, they need to make sure it makes sense to them before they take it into account. Lots of political commentators or analysts tend to be LIIs in my experience, and they usually draw iedological lines in the sand. 

Another aspect that I find curious with INTPs (LIIs) is that they actually like being invited out to social gatherings, or being a part of a "light" social atmosphere. Despite lots of LIIs saying they aren't much of a "party person," they tend to let loose when given the right circumstances (and guidance) to help them out. 

Type Breakdown

Ti-Ne Ego Block
(Ti-Ne) - (Si-Fe) - (Te-Ni) - (Se-Fi)

    The Ego Block is the aspect of the personality you are the most confident in, and is what you offer to the world. It's the main dish of the course, and it's your signature. As such, the ego block is made up of the Base/Leading the Creative functions. The base function is your entire worldview; everything stems from it. The creative function is the sword to your kit, which you can use in any given situation. It's flexible, and importantly, can be turned on and off (which makes it more subtle in usage than the base function), as it's not "on" 24/7. 

    For the LII, the Base and Creative functions are Ti and Ne.

    This means that the LII if foremost concerned with creating structures, theories, and concepts to interpret the world around them. They can categorize huge swaths of information, and separate them into many distinct categories. From there, they seek to constantly refine and improve their frameworks, constantly adding new information and sorting it into their structure. Precise and measured in his/her language, they seek to be as concise as possible. Everything in life, all new information, is processed in a way that contributes and adds to this one theory to life, and how the world works. To pursue the truth.  

    From there, the LII will accomplish this task by investigating every perceivable angle or detail in a structure, to better understand it. This is how Ne creative comes into play. AKA, these types can be very pedantic. They don't do it to be annoying (although it can seem that way to some), but they do it simply to be more precise, or more specifically, to be closer to the truth of the matter. These are types than can easily have mile-long discussions in Reddit comment-sections about how to properly define toast. But they are very much capable in calling out people, by running their information and conclusions through their framework, and determining whether it matches up with their own conclusions and perceptions. 

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     To give a more visual example, Spencer Reid (Criminal Minds) in the clip below defends one of his decision in a calm and logical manner. He answers every question the interviewers have specifically, and is as precise as he can be. When one of the panellists presents his own argument to combat Reid's, the latter quickly dismantles his opponent by bringing up information that runs counter to the panellist's "thesis."  An LII spends much of their time trying to sort new information in a manner that is as correct as possible, they can do this almost instinctively.

Fi-Se Superego
(Ti-Ne) - (Si-Fe) - (Te-Ni) - (Se-Fi)

    If you are coming in from MBTI, this is where socionics begins to depart from it. The next area of focus is called the superego block, or the area in which uses to support their ego block. The two functions in this sphere are called the Role and the POLR (Point of Least Resistance) functions. 

    The Role element is the function you use to directly support, and to balance out your ego-block functions. It is not something you enjoy doing or value, but it needs to be done in order to balance yourself out as a person. You'll see this element a lot (which can lead to mistypings), and you can actually become quite proficient with this function with practice. The POLR function is the element you essentially keep locked up in your basement because it directly messes with the ego-block. As such, this is going to often be the function many struggle with using properly, and requires constant (and painful) trial-and-error to improve. 

    For the LII, the Role and POLR functions are Fi and Se.

    So what does this mean? It means that to the average onlooker, the LII is going to be a surprisingly moralistic person, and they are going to have a rigid sense of right and wrong. However, you'll quickly notice that their morality is more-so black and white, and serves to bolster and support the structure that they see the world through. They don't value thinking in moralistic terms, but to make their observations more digestible to the public, they will usually explain how their system and structure in interpreting the world is the "right" thing to do, whereas people who adopt other structures that are incorrect/flawed are wrong. 

    You will find that many people who advocate for a particular ideological/religious framework tend to be often Fi Role types. It's not that they value the moral implications of those structures, per-say, but it helps give them a more solid structure, and to balance out their purely hypothetical conceptions to make more people willing to adopt them. This can present a danger with potential mistypes. Ti and Fi base types can be often confused as one another. But you'll find that the moral systems that LII's use lack the nuance of Fi base, and will quickly crumble when consistent pressure is applied to them. 

    A good example of Fi Role is the character of Zeke Yeager in Attack on Titan. Zeke has developed a system to perceiving the world, a specific ideology that gives him comfort. His worldview is precise, articulate, and he is more than willing to explain the reasoning of his beliefs to anyone who asks. But more often than not, you will hear Zeke use the plight of the Eldian people as a backdrop to his argument, and that his ideology is to stop their suffering by euthanizing them. "They won't have to suffer if they were never born." You will quickly realize that Zeke uses the morality of "ceasing the suffering of Eldians" and "bringing hope" to the island, as simply a support to present his framework in seeing the world, in order to cope with his experiences, and the unpredictability of the surrounding environment. He wants everyone to adopt his philosophy to see the world as he does. This can cause issues with Fi Base types (such as ESIs and EIIs) who hold their moral convictions far more tightly.

 

    
    Se POLR typically means that an LII does not respond well to volitional pressure. They can overreact when they come across a perceived threat, and might not know what exactly to do when someone actively refuses/resists to do what they say. These types will also avoid conflict, and do their best to not intrude in the space of others, and they prefer if others do the same for them. For an LII, getting a person to do something outside of relying on rationale/logic can prove to be a very difficult task. These are also types that do not move very quickly, or at the very least, often move very slowly at the start of whatever they are doing. 

Fe-Si Super-id
(Ti-Ne) - (Si-Fe) - (Te-Ni) - (Se-Fi)

    The Super-id block is made up of the two functions that the individual is weaker at, but consistently values and wants to get better at. This block has two functions, the mobilizing and the suggestive element. The mobilizing function is something that gives the individual energy, and is an avenue they want to keep actively pursuing to become better. The Suggestive function is known the "inferior" function in MBTI, and is an aspect that the individual sucks at, needs lots of help and guidance with, but they are open to (and love people who can provide) feedback in this area. Hence, the name "suggestive," because another person suggests you do this, sort of thing (hopefully I don't sound like an idiot).

    For the LII, the suggestive function is Fe. This means that an LII is going to be as expressive as someone in an open-casket funeral, but they want to get better at this aspect of themselves. They are going to be very socially awkward, but value people who can integrate them into fun and social atmospheres. After tons of trial and error, the LII will eventually learn to relicate this behaviour, and be able to create the same fun atmosphere they often enjoy so much. This is why the LII dualizes with the ESE (ESFJ), which has Fe base. The ESE (ESFJ) is very skilled in creating those enviornments, and is only as pushy as they need to be in order to get the LII to come along, without triggering their Se POLR. Think of the popular guy/girl in school inviting the bookish person to a party to open them up, and the bookish person starts to open up and become jovial. But the key here is that the ESE will never push the LII to do these things, and know how to be as accomodating as possible to let the LII open up on their own.

    A good example of this dynamic is Sheldon Cooper (LII) and Penny (ESE) from Big Bang Theory. Here, Penny does not force Sheldon to do anyone he doesn't want to do, and respects his comfort. She creates that positive accepting atmosphere that Sheldon wants and ultimately values, but never forces him. Here Sheldon learns Penny's approach, and might be able to replicate this same tactic in the future (maybe, but it's the thought that counts). 

    The mobilizing function for the LII is Si. The LII is someone who has difficulty replicating aesthetic sensory experiences, but likes to talk about being comfortable, and relaxed. What they need, is someone who can tell them specifically what they need to be comfortable and relaxed, and to provide those sensations. This is an aspect the LII actively seeks to improve. However, it's bold, lacks the nuance of higher-dimensional Si (as in the ESE, SEI, ESI and LSI), and often is drawn to extremes. They will often times either overdo it and become excessively hedonistic, or they will completely deprive themselves of acceptable aetshetic sensory experiences. 

So in short, think of a person who will sometimes lay on the couch for an entire week because they want to feel comfy, and then the next week they'll stay up all night researching a topic and forget to eat, fufilling themselves on solely on black coffee and trail mix during an all-night binge on World of Warcraft, or writing some video-essay to 50 subscribers on YouTube. 

Te-Ni Id Block
(Ti-Ne) - (Si-Fe) - (Te-Ni)- (Se-Fi)

    The Id Block are made up of functions the individual is very good at. but don't really care that much to talk about, or draw attention to. These two functions are called the Demonstrative and the Ignoring elements. 

    The Demonstrative element is something that is constantly running in the background, and many people might associate you as having. When it flairs up, tt's extremely bold, noticable, and it's actually the most potent function alongside your base/ dominant function. Because of this, it can lead to a load of mistypes if not careful, as you might think someone's demonstrative element is their base. However, the demonstrative element is not that interesting to the individual. They know they are good at it, but they don't see much value in investing too much time into this element.

    The Ignoring function is pretty self-explanatory. It's potent, effective, and it can be used when you need to. But you would much rather spend your time and energy engaging with your ego block, so this is only used as "back-up" when the scenario calls for it. This element is effective and you're good at it, but it's not all that interesting to engage with.

    For the LII, the Demonstrative and Ignoring functions are Ni and Te. 

        Ni Demonstrative makes the LII very skilled at assessing trends and how they change and materialize over time. This can make them mistype as ILI (INTJ) on some occassions. However, the important difference is that he/she does not take those matters nearly as seriously as investigating systems and structures that they are currently engaged with. They will treat these ideas as a novelty, rather than dedicating large amounts of time contemplating them. When they do engage with it at their leisure, it is bold and very noticeable to others. But their attitude towards the element is going to be rather indifferent. 

    Lastly, Te Ignoring makes LIIs skilled at gathering practical data to support their conclusions. If they need to check their answers, they will. However, they do not like to do this in comparison with making the new information logically consistent with his/her system. The LII wants new information to make sense to them first before they fact-check their conclusions. 

    So sometimes you might see an LII adopt a conclusion that does not appear to fit the data avaliable, simply because it makes sense to that specific LII. The novelty of it fitting with their internal logical framework (and being consistent) is often good enough, but if they need to, they will check their answers to be sure they are correct. So you might see an LII be somewhat stubborn at first to change their opinions, but if you present to them factual data, they will usually begrudgingly do so, but only after they deem it to be consistent with what they already think. 

    An excellent example of this in Death Note, with the character of L. Throughout most of the series, L is entirely convinced of Light being Kira. He came to the conclusion nearly immediately, and is outright lying when he tells Light that he is only a mere suspect. However, the difficulty was then finding evidence to convict him. 

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    In the clip below, you can clearly tell that L's exercise here was never to get substantial proof on Light. But rather to test if L's perception of Light is consistent, and to reaffirm his suspicions. You can clearly see that while L is skilled with both Ti and Te, he clearly prefers to engage with Ti.

~ How to Spot LIIs in Your Daily Life ~

• Someone who is content with hyper-fixating on a specific structure and system, to find out all of the intricate details that make it work. Very specific, precise, and will ask questions to poke and prode at how you think. Not to aggressively berate you, but then to simply point out flaws as an intellectual exercise. 
• Can appear to be moralistic, and have black and white views on morality. Usually it is tied to a system or thought process that they are advocating for. "My way of viewing the world is correct because of (insert moral/ethical reason here)." But these views are not very nuanced, and you'll find the LII will quickly abandon these ideas after scrutiny. They value the logical consistency of their views over the more/ethical emplications. 
• These are people that very much value moving at their own pace, and often times can be somewhat slow when starting tasks. But they do have a strong perception of time, and will always get things accomplished on time, and rarely will be late. 
• Values and looks for people who are open, accomodating, and promote a positive, cheerful atmosphere that includes them (in all their socially awkward glory). 
• Can switch between being exceedingly lazy and comfort-oriented, to someone who will live in abhorent conditions and deprive themselves of sensory comforts. Likes being comfortable, and wants someone who can help them find out what they specifically like to experience. 
• Prefers playing with ideas and categorizing them within a framework, than verifying their conclusions (even if they can do so effectively).

More Facts

The *typical* smoothest and most challenging relationships for LIIs

• Smoothest: Alpha Quadra / ESE (ESFJ), SEI (ISFJ), LII (INTP), ILE (ENTP)
• Challenging: Gamma Quadra / SEE (ESFP), ESI (ISFP), LIE (ENTJ), ILI (INTJ)

Most Common Mistypes for LIIs (and why)

1.  ILI (INTJ) - Ni Demonstrative

2.  EII (INFP) - Ti Role and Se POLR

3. ILE (ENTP) - Same Ego Block Functions 

Most Commonly Found Enneagram/Psychosophy Combinations

Enneagram - SO6
Psychosophy - (SO6) LVEF, LVFE

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Jung's Lab: https://www.youtube.com/@Jungslab1312
PorcupineJason: https://www.youtube.com/@PracticalSocionics

Socionics Sources:

Aushra's Writings: https://classicsocionics.wordpress.com/

Wikisocion: https://wikisocion.github.io/

LII (INTP) Fictional Characters

L' Lawliet (SO 6 LVEF)
Death Note
"No matter how gifted you are... You alone, cannot change the world."

Sheldon Cooper (SO6 LVFE)
The Big Bang Theory
"One cries because they are sad. I cry because someone is stupid, and that makes me sad."

Master Yoda (SO6 LVEF)
Star Wars
"Fear is the path to the dark side."

Kirisu Makise (SO6 LVEF)
Steins;Gate 
"Even if the world line changes, as long as you don't forget me, I'm there."

Lester Freamon (SO 6 LVEF)
The Wire
"A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."

Zeke Yeager (SO 6 LVEF)
Attack on Titan
"If we'd never been born in the first place, we never would have to suffer, either."

Ariadne (SO 6 LVFE)
Inception
"You might have the rest of the team convinced to carry on with this job, but they don't know the truth."

Spencer Reid (SO 6 LVEF)
Criminal Minds
"There are lots of ways sons defeat their fathers. I just keep getting PhDs."

Noriaki Kakyoin (SO 6 LVEF)
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure 
"My name is Noriaki Kakyoin! For the vengeance of my friend Avdol and so that the sister of my friend, Polnareff, may be at peace, you will pay with your life!"

Tim Drake (SO 6 LVFE)
DC Universe
"I'm not Batman. I have friends."

Ross Geller (SO 6 LVFE)
Friends
"Unagi is a state of total awareness. Only by achieving true unagi can you be prepared for any danger that may fall upon you."

 Dutch Wagenbach (SO6 LVFE)
The Shield
"If you're so special, how come a lonely civil servant like me just caught you?"

Hayato Kawajiri (SO6 LVEF)
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
"You better not hurt me! You got that?! And you'd better not hurt Mom either!