๐ณ๐ด๐ป๐ ๐ฐ ๐ ๐ ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ ๐ฐ ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ (๐๐๐๐) ๐๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฉ๐
Opening Statements: Written by ImpossibleHunt
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Honestly one of my favourite types in socionics. as these guys are some of the most hard-working and down-to earth people, that just want to make their day-to-day lives more efficient and comfortable for those they love. But do not be fooled by these types, much like the ESE, these people are more than capable in ripping you in half (Se demonstrative). But they would much rather things just operate smoothly. in all honesty, these types can be exceedingly kind, and mild-mannered If everything is going smoothly, anyways.
In contrast to many stereotypes that classify the LSE as this over-aggressive micromanager (which might be accurate for SX1 LSE lol), many LSEs want their loved ones to be comfortable, and actually greatly value people who are open about their feelings, and demonstrate intimacy with them. They don't seek out conflict, but only employ it as a correctional measure.
Type Breakdown
Te-Si Ego Block
(Te-Si) - (Ne-Fi) - (Ti-Se) - (Ni-Fe)
The Ego Block is the aspect of the personality you are the most confident in, and is what you offer to the world. It's the main dish of the course, and it's your signature. As such, the ego block is made up of the Base/Leading the Creative functions. The base function is your entire worldview; everything stems from it. The creative function is the sword to your kit, which you can use in any given situation. It's flexible, and importantly, can be turned on and off (which makes it more subtle in usage than the base function), as it's not "on" 24/7.
For the LSE, the base and creative functions are Te and Si.
These are some of the truest professionals (and some of the best types, IMO) in socionics, and are purely focused on their work. Because of leading with Te, the LSE is going to be extremely confident on being well-informed to take on matters related to his/her profession. These types get their sense of self-worth from being involved in activities that are seen as useful and productive. But these types are not the sort to endlessly chase after their own ambitions, and they work to make sure their loved ones are well-taken care of, and to secure a sense of security in their profession.
To support this endeavour, the type employs the use of creative Si in order to create and foster environments where their loved ones feel appreciated. In contrast to many stereotypes that insist that LSEs are unaware of their partners inclinations, preferences and tastes, the LSE is actually very much-so. These types will often take their loved ones on activities they know they will like, give them gifts, and overall maximize their enjoyment.
In the scene below, Howard Hamlin (the best character in Better Call Saul, fight me) is summoned by his mentor Chuck McGill, to listen to a supposed incriminating tape from his brother Jimmy McGill (Saul Goodman). While Chuck is satisfied with the tape, Howard immediately calls into question its practicality in the court of law, it's legality, etc. He warns Chuck to be rational about his next steps, and that the tape is effectively useless, and that using it would damage his credibility in the eyes of the firm he is supposed to represent. Here, Howard is the only one being pragmatic.
Or in this scene from Resident Evil Village, Chris Redfield learns that a bioweapon has infiltrated the Winter's household. Pragmatically speaking, it made sense to keep Ethan Winters in the dark, in the case that the information could have been leaked and afforded the BOW time to escape. So he and his team blow through the doors, take out Ethan's "wife" (who was a bioweapon inpersonating his wife Mia), and arrests Ethan. Later in the story, you hear that Redfield was conflicted about keeping Ethan in the dark, and felt guilty about the operation. But he exectues his mission despite these personal sentiments. You can see in this clip that Chris is a pragamtist first, and focuses on fufilling his job to the best of his ability.
Fe-Ni Superego
(Te-Si) - (Ne-Fi) - (Ti-Se) - (Ni-Fe)
For the LSE (ESTJ), the role and POLR functions are Fe and Ni.
Fe role, for the LSE, is essentially a positive "mask" they wear in order to participate in the social sphere, or to better advocate for their practical endeavours. These types recognize that battering people over the head with empiricism, efficiency, and pragmatism isn't going to win any people over. So in the social sphere, these types can come across as incredibly positive, and upbeat. However, it can come across as superficial and shallow, and the LSE won't be able to keep up the behaviour for very long before it starts to slip. If in the conversation, someone is factually wrong about something, the LSE can't help but correct the individual. So Fe is only useful for the LSE if it falls in line with their ego block.
A small example of how Fe role can work, is shown here with Bruno Buccarati's introduction from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Here, he is tasked with finding out who attacked a Mafioso member. When he confronts the main protagonist, Giorno Giovanna, on the train, he most certainly is immediately commencing with an interrogation. But at the start, his tactic is to come across as jovial. He laughs gleefully, and tries to lighten the mood. But when he gets down to business, the demeanour suddenly drops, and he proceeds with interrogating Giorno for the facts. It was clear that this "opener" was to support his Te, in order to get Giorno to drop his guard before he interrogates him. He also comes across as really superficial, and that he was clearly up to something.
Ni POLR makes it exceedingly difficult for the LSE to plan out things long-term, and they prefer to engage with the scenario at the moment. Time is treated as if it is all near the present, and can be done in today or close to today. This usually manifests as an LSE (ESTJ) usually plans his everyday tasks in a routine that accomplishes everything that needs to get done. It's focused on a day-to-day basis, with often very little need to plan far ahead. Unlike the LIE who tries to accomplish and work their way towards future goals and aspirations, the LSE wants to make sure that every day is accomplished smoothly.
Fi-Ne Super-Id Block
(Te-Si) - (Ne-Fi) - (Ti-Se) - (Ni-Fe)
The Super-id block is made up of the two functions that the individual is weaker at, but consistently values and wants to get better at. This block has two functions, the mobilizing and the suggestive element. The mobilizing function is something that gives the individual energy, and is an avenue they want to keep actively pursuing to become better.
The Suggestive function is known the "inferior" function in MBTI, and is an aspect that the individual sucks at, needs lots of help and guidance with, but they are open to (and love people who can provide) feedback in this area.
For the LSE, the suggestive and mobilizing functions are Fi and Ne.
Suggestive Fi makes it so that LSEs often tailor their focus on whether someone makes sense or not, or whether what they are doing is practical. They are terrible at assessing people's intentions, and have a hard time assessing how people feel about them in return, without clear emotional expressions. But this is someone who really sentimental, and values feedback on whether they are doing "the right thing." This is one of the reasons why they dualize with EIIs (INFPs), who can offer them such feedback, and who make their own personal sentiments clear and out in the open.
A fantastic example of this comes from Jean Kirstein, who takes his talk with Marco to heart during the Battle for Trost. Marco claims that Jean is a good leader, because he is "one of them," and knows what it is like to be weak. It's an assessment of Jean's character, and this feedback is one of the main reasons he signs up for the Survey Corps. It is clear that Jean was incredibly receptive to this feedback, and he later strives to become the very same leader Marco thought he was. Marco remains one of the most important figures in Jean's life, even being mentioned 4 years after his death is enough to bring Jean to anger.
Ne mobilizing makes LSEs very appreciative of people who can offer them alternative interpretations, or possibilities to the events they are going through. In a way, the LSE feels that they come away from these discussions more knowledgable than previously.
Ti-Se Id Block
(Te-Si) - (Ne-Fi) - (Ti-Se) - (Ni-Fe)
The Ignoring function is pretty self-explanatory. It's potent, effective, and it can be used when you need to. But you would much rather spend your time and energy engaging with your ego block, so this is only used as "back-up" when the scenario calls for it. This element is effective and you're good at it, but it's not all that interesting to engage with.
Se demonstrative unironically makes LSEs some of the most intimidating people in socionics, and it's an aspect of themselves they don't draw much attention to. They much rather have everything work smoothly, and peacefully. But it's a side of themselves that comes out when they need to assert themselves, force others to obey their procedures, or defend those they value from attack. If one of these instances occurs, the LSE will have no problem getting physical in order to have their needs met. In fact, some of the most intimidating people in fiction are pissed off LSEs who are defending their family, or asserting their will. For example, Rick Grimes is an infamous case. There are many scenes in The Walking Dead where Rick would get undeniably violent in order to protect people, if no other methods works beforehand. But when Rick is at his happiest, it is when he is living in peace with his friends and family. Violence and intimidation are only to be used to bring him and his loved ones, back to that status quo.
Ti ignoring makes it so that LSEs are capable in making sure their conclusions are logically consistent, and they undertstand philosophical concepts rather easily. However, they find discussions that are entirely centered around systems, structures, and methods of thinking to be pointless, and uninteresting. Why do that when you can just be focused on what works? Why waste time on this?
How to Spot LSEs in Real Life
- LSEs are the workhorses of socionics. They make sure that every day-to-day task is accomplished, and is in working order. They are knowledgable, pragmatic, and want everyone to be working to make sure things are properly executed, and done efficently.
- In contrast to stereotypes, many LSEs will be seen as friendly people, who put on a happy face in front of people. This is because to the LSE, external emotionality is far easier to them than bringing out their personal sentiments into the open. However, you'll notice that this individual will not be able to hold the facade for long. Even when they are acting happy and jovial, try throwing out an incorrect piece of information. The LSE will go out of their way to correct you, usually politely, but letting incorrect information fly past them feels disturbing, and they'll avoid letting that happen whenever possible.
- These types are wholely unconcerned with the future, and are focused on keeping their day-to-day affairs in order.
- Greatly value people who can give them moral feedback, or who can assess the LSEs own sentiments without them having to put it out explicitly in the open. They also value those who can explore ideas and possibilities, as they feel it grants them a larger degree of understanding on topics.
- Can be extremely intimidating when they need to. This is not an aspect they value in themselves, and are happiest when everyone around them is comfortable, and enjoying themselves. But if they situation calls for, an LSE will be easily able to physically confront you.
- Don't enjoy philosophical discussions, or talks focused on understanding logical structures, as they find these pointless (although they themselves, can understand these concepts just fine).
- Best: Delta Quadra - EII (INFP), IEE (ENFP), LSE (ESTJ), SLI (ISTJ)
- Worst: Beta Quadra - IEI (INFJ), EIE (ENFJ), SLE (ESTP), LSI (ISTP)
Recommended Other Sources to Check Out
(Please check out Ti-imbecile on YouTube for Premium Psychosophy Content)
https://www.youtube.com/@Ti-Imbecile
Recommended Small YouTube Socionics Channels:
Trey4L: https://www.youtube.com/@trey4l
PorcupineJason: https://www.youtube.com/@PracticalSocionics
Fictional LSE (ESTJ) Characters
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Chris Redfield (SP3 FVLE)
Resident Evil
"I have to face the truth, accept responsibility. That's the only way I'll get my life back.
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Howard Hamlin (SP3 FVLE)
Better Call Saul
"You know Jimmy, sometimes in our line of work you can get so caught up in the idea of winning, that you forget to listen to your heart."
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Bruno Buccarati (SO1 LVFE)
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
"To complete my mission and protect my men. Having to do both at once is what makes a capo so tough. Are you ready for this? I sure am."
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Ellen Ripley (SP1 LVFE)
Alien Film Series
"You know Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage."
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Jean Kirstein (SP3 FVLE)
Attack on Titan
"I wish I could have just cooped up in my room with my ears shut. But if I had, the burnt ashes of the dead would never have forgiven me."
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Maggie Greene (SX1 VFLE)
The Walking Dead
"When we were fighting the Saviors, you told me that soon you'd be the one following me, but you didn't, 'Cause I wasn't someone to follow. That changes now.
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Jill Valentine (SP3 FVLE)
Resident Evil
"Bitch can't even swim"
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Hermonie Granger (SO1 LVFE)
Harry Potter
"Now if you two don't mind, I'm going to bed before either of you come up with another clever idea to get us killed - or worse, expelled."
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Rick Grimes (SP1 LVFE)
The Walking Dead
"But you'll cross someone's path. You'd do this to anyone, right? Besides, I already made you a promise" (swings his machete).
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Peter Pevensie (SO1 LVFE)
The Chronicles of Narnia
(How many more must die for the throne?)
"Just one."
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Nolan Grayson (SX1 VFLE)
Invincible
"Look what you made me do! You are fighting so you can watch everyone around you die! Think Mark! You'll outlast every fragile, insignificant being on this planet. You'll watch this planet crumble to dust and blow away! Everyone and everything you know will be gone!... What will you have after 500 years?!
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Monica Geller (SP3 FVLE)
Friends
"I need you to be careful and effecient, and remember, if I'm harsh with you, it's only because you're doing it wrong."
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Saga Anderson (SP3 FVLE)
Alan Wake 2
"I brought you the heart, witch; show me the terror."
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Sokka (SP3 FVLE)
Avatar: The Last Airbender
"I'm sorry Master. You're wrong. I'm not worthy. I'm not who you think I am. I'm not from the Fire Nation, I'm from the Southern Water Tribe. I lied so I can learn swordsmanship from you. I'm sorry."
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Leia Organa (SX1 VFLE)
Star Wars
"Aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?
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Gustavo "Gus" Fring (SP1 LVFE)
Breaking Bad & Better Call Saul
"A man provides. And he does it even when he's not appreciated or respected or even loved. He simply bears up at does it. Because he is a man."
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Mufasa (SO1 VFLE)
The Lion King
"Look inside yourself. You are more than what you have become."
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The Walking Dead
"You step outside, you risk your life. You take a drink of water, you risk your life. And nowadays you breath, and you risk your life. Every moment now you don't have a choice."
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Better Call Saul
"You do not get to make up your own rules. Put on your big boy pants and face reality."
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Metal Gear Solid
"Listen, I've used a gun like this since I was eight years old, I'm more comfortable with it than I am with a bra."
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God of War
"The cycle ends here. We must be better than this."
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
"One is all, and all is one."
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
" The moment a soldier dons his uniform, he accepts that he might be buried in it."
Lou Solverson (SP1 LVFE)
Fargo
"Your husband, he said he was going to protect his family no matter what. And I acted like I didn't understand, but I do. It's the rock we all push - men. We call it our burden, but it's really our privilege."
Jonathan Joestar (SO1 VFLE)
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
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